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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:49 pm 
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Hello all. My question is going out specifically to luthiers living in Canada. I was thinking of order some shell products from DePaule Supplies. Just wondering what to expect as far as Canadian Customs? I am thinking of ordering a Martin style torch and snowflake inlay set for an upcoming build. With all the Lacey act stuff of recent times and things that can and cannot be shipped across borders I am left confused about the whole thing and how we are effected in Canada. DePaule's website says products shipped to Canada would be coming from Vietnam instead of the US. I realize sometimes customs are charged on things ordered from other countries depending on value, but what would I expect on shell products? Anyone have any recent experiences ordering this kind of material? Thanks.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 10:21 pm 
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I order from Andy fairly regularly and have never had a problem at customs.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 10:29 pm 
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Shouldn't be a problem. It's only shipping into the US that's a problem.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:40 pm 
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I've ordered from dePaule a few times with no problems.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:45 pm 
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They normally send through the mail. Typically Canada Post doesn't bother with a low value item.
I Order a lot of product out of the US and the tax/duty limit for me on stuff that comes in the mail has been around $200.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 1:27 am 
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That in fact is the limit, from the US.


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Never had a problem and I don't think I've ever had an order tagged by customs.


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meddlingfool wrote:
Shouldn't be a problem. It's only shipping into the US that's a problem.


I may be wrong but I think US dealers are not suppose to export shell products without a whole bunch of hoop jumping.
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Andy DePaule of luthiersupply.com. Ships out of Vietnam with no other taxes and fees.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:09 am 
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meddlingfool wrote:
Shouldn't be a problem. It's only shipping into the US that's a problem.

False: Lacey paperwork (and fees) from FWS is required for all commercial transactions of shell crossing US border. Note you will see Stewmac, LMI, etc., clearly state that orders of shell can only be shipped within US.


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As stated above. No problem as Andy ships out of Vietnam direct to customers in Canada.


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Or you could always come across the border if you can, take the shell stuff, and take it out yourself. As far as I know if it's non commercial it's exempt.

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Tom West wrote:
meddlingfool wrote:
Shouldn't be a problem. It's only shipping into the US that's a problem.


I may be wrong but I think US dealers are not suppose to export shell products without a whole bunch of hoop jumping.
Tom


That's correct. The hoop jumping includes (last time I checked) a $200 fee plus a trip to the nearest Fish and Wildlife office for inspection and then on top of that, I believe you have to ship it through specific ports of export.

Unfortunately, I've had to turn away quite a few Canadian luthiers looking for custom inlay work.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:33 pm 
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Well sounds like I'll be ok to go ahead and order a few things soon then! Thanks guys!


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